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  Retrocausality to be Tested
Posted by Karl on Friday January 26, @01:35PM
from the dept.
I've known about this for a while now: John Cramer is going to try to send a signal backwards in time sometime this year. (Apparently he decided that merely sending a signal instantaneously wasn't good enough.) There's a highly lucid description of what he's up to in the San Franciso Chronicle.

There's been a fair amount of commentary on the experiment itself, but not so much on its consequences. Time travel is an unlikely result, because backwards-propagating "causal influences" are not the same as sending physical objects back to 1857. Ditto for paradoxes like the famous "grandfather paradox"--they're unlikely because, looked at as lines embedded in a fixed space-time, causal influences can't loop endlessly. From inside the loop it might appear that some eerily intelligent force is preventing you from creating paradoxes, but that would be an illusion of observation. They're just not likely to be logically possible.

Some really amazing possibilities might open up for us--quantum computers with retrocausal circuits, for instance, or instantaneous communication between planets or the stars. One implication, however, might be that some form of superdeterminism rules the universe.

Superdeterminism says that not only is every event in the universe predetermined, but that it could not be any other way. Paradoxically, an ability to influence the past may imply that both future and past are actually immutable. Because if influences propagate both forward and backward in time, then you can imagine this moment, with you sitting at your computer reading these words, as sending waves of implication out in all directions, causing the future to happen but also causing the past to happen; and that therefore the fact of you sitting where you are now requires everything else that has gone before and everything that will come after. Everything is tied together in a single inextricable knot of mutual implication, and nothing could be other than what it is.

Depressing? Well, not if you've had a good day. And the fact is that a little fact like this says absolutely nothing about whether you will have a good day, or anything about whether you, as a person, can change your circumstances or succeed or anything existential like that. In the end, superdeterminism is little more than a fancy way of saying that the universe is.

So step back from the brink, my friend, and take a deep breath. Wait a few months, and we'll see if we get our instantaneous star-spanning radio sets. Who knows? Maybe this is the channel that the aliens all use, and that's why SETI hasn't heard anything from them--because it's doing the equivalent of listening for tribal drums while radio waves flicker everywhere.

Is that possible? Well, we'll find out in a few months.



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    Re: Retrocausality to be Tested
    by Ted on Saturday January 27, @02:15AM
    Even if this experiment does successfully transmit information, I don't think it will enable "instantaneous star-spanning radio sets." It still requires entangled photons, so half of the entangled pairs have to be waiting at the receiving end of any instantaneous tranmission, and they presumably got there at lightspeed. At best, it would enable instantaneous communication between near-lightspeed spacecraft.

    As for whether a fixed future is depressing or not, that depends on what your future is. If you learn that tomorrow you're going to have an accident that will leave you a quadriplegic (something that is entirely possible if we start transmitting messages into the past), you'll need to have a very zen outlook to not find that a little depressing.

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